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Alastor
10-Mar-09, 06:17
Some of you will give a crap, others won't.

My street cred:

I fell in love with History when I was in 8th grade. I never looked back. I always knew that one day my path would be inter-twined with historical work of one kind or another.

I became a fanatic about history, reading and watching everything I could about topics that interested me. I would memorize things. I could recite entire tomes of knowledge about events of the past. I could name places and people that other people never even heard of.

When I entered college I was in for a rude awakening; that this is not what Historians actually did and it wasn't going to help me a bit. Luckily, I loved what they actually did even more than what I thought they did.

I went on to graduate from college in 4.5 years with two degrees as a National Honors Student in both of my majors as well as my overall GPA despite working part, full, or more than full-time throughout college.

By the end of my BA degree I was a student-teacher in the honors level courses on my campus.

I was given scholarships every semester. I made the President's List. I was elected as the President of Phi Alpha Theta, the History Honors Society. I was published in The Historian, a scholarly journal for Historians.


What it means:

An Historian is not someone who memorizes facts, dates, places and names. That's what a trivia champion does. An Historian is a behavioral scientist. It's a Social Science. It's about how people interact with each other and their world and learning about those things in an effort to see our current circumstances for what they are, and reasonably hypothesize about likely outcomes down the road.

It often extends beyond people however, and into other areas that we're not as familiar with as well. Climate change for example has a major impact on our lives and one that Historians can be very valuable in dealing with in the decades to come.

Often historians must look at circumstances and exterior forces and how we as people engage them in order to be productive and actually do what we're supposed to do; solve problems. It requires a very vast understanding of people and often of things that don't superficially appear to involve people at all.

When our role does involve people, being an Historian isn't about knowing what day George Washington was born. It's about understanding the things he did right, the things he did wrong, how he should have done it, and how we today can do it better than he did (or at least avoid similar mistakes) in our own lives each day.

An Historian doesn't recite facts. An Historian... Understands people. Basic human behaviors, predicting actions, accounting for human nature, constraints (both human and environmental), empathy, understanding, and ultimately being able to articulate all of those skills in an effort to make tomorrow a little bit better than today.

Trivia champions memorize. Historians analyze.

If anyone is interested in finding out more about what Historians actually do (or are supposed to do at least), lay it on me. I'll do the best I can to answer honestly.

Death Ray Commander
10-Mar-09, 06:30
Question one: What hole did you crawl out of for you to wait until eight grade to get hooked on History?

Alastor
10-Mar-09, 06:51
Question one: What hole did you crawl out of for you to wait until eight grade to get hooked on History?

Actually, I was kind of a problemed child. I was never good at school until I went to college. I never made good grades. I was constantly in trouble, and not just petty stuff either.

I flunked 7th grade. I also flunked 12th - or was going to before I got kicked out (again).

I was kind of a bad kid to be honest. I was never a well-behaved person until well after I was out of high school.

I took many history classes between 8th grade and graduating college. None of them ever excited or interested me the way the one in 8th grade did though. I don't know why. That one class made all the difference though.

naguchanzilla
13-Mar-09, 11:06
Are there any specific parts of history that interest you? For instance: medieval period, renaissance period, industrial revolution period, etc. Any specific cultures that interest you as well.

I liked the time frame in america between 1870-1920, as well as europe, WWI, some dark ages stuff, royalty as well as how theyre interconnected. There is more, but I probably couldn't explain it right.

Alastor
13-Mar-09, 12:16
Are there any specific parts of history that interest you? For instance: medieval period, renaissance period, industrial revolution period, etc. Any specific cultures that interest you as well.

I liked the time frame in america between 1870-1920, as well as europe, WWI, some dark ages stuff, royalty as well as how theyre interconnected. There is more, but I probably couldn't explain it right.

Not really. I used to, but that was back when I was more fascinated with facts than the nature of humanity.

Now it really doesn't matter in terms of time frame. This sounds lame I guess, but it's not. Everything's more interesting now because I've learned to look at everything as relating to people and understanding them, so any time frame is just as fascinating as the next.

So no, no favorites any more.

AiRsTrIkE
19-Mar-09, 13:50
What's it like to love (and teach) a subject that many students are largely uninterested in?

Alastor
19-Mar-09, 19:12
What's it like to love (and teach) a subject that many students are largely uninterested in?

I don't know fully yet. I'm an Historian, but only just beginning to be a teacher. I taught History Honors and Economics for 6 weeks.

The History Honors kids were obviously incredibly interested, so there wasn't really a way for me to lose their attention. They love history.

The seniors on the other hand, could not care less. They wanted to go to lunch, go have sex, go get jobs, go to college, go play vids or just go get into trouble.

They couldn't care less and it was still pretty managable. They behaved. They "played along" so they didn't get busted. They learned what they needed to to get by which is all one can ask of last semester Seniors really.

Then again, I taught at one of the best public schools in the nation. I don't know what it's like in other schools or other districts. I only know about the one school I was at.

Even with that I only was there for 6 weeks and only barely got to teach all that much. Mostly I sat and observed.

{chas}
22-Jul-09, 17:14
What advice would you give to someone who is entering college, but is conflicted with his choice of Majoring in History or Psychology?

I'm a top scorer in both subjects, and both are extremely interesting to me, but I don't know which I'd rather do more.

On a scale of 1 to 10, what would you rate a career in History?

Off topic: I too, became interested in History when in 8th grade.

Alastor
22-Jul-09, 23:37
What advice would you give to someone who is entering college, but is conflicted with his choice of Majoring in History or Psychology?

I'm a top scorer in both subjects, and both are extremely interesting to me, but I don't know which I'd rather do more.

On a scale of 1 to 10, what would you rate a career in History?

Off topic: I too, became interested in History when in 8th grade.

Well, you can always get a second major. Either spend a summer going to school or just stay an extra semester longer. What are you in a hurry for? College is fun. Enjoy the time you're there and extend it as long as possible.

Frankly, unless you actually want to work in the psychology field which means probably research or state work, you're going to find far more marketability with a degree in History.

Still, they're both BAs and they're both about abstract analysis. They're roughly the same skills applied differently.

Either or, really. 6 of one half-dozen of the other. I'd recommend a double major if you really like both. If not, take the one that has the highest GPA as your major and the other as your minor.

Bioengineer
28-Jul-09, 23:58
What school did u go to?